It was an operation started by necessity - the leadership itself was torn about doing it. Compare that with how the US prepared for the second Iraq War. You spot the difference?
That might be, but taking your statement as given, Russia still didn't manage sell such an existential war to its own population, and still can't sell a full mobilization.
Do you think that Europeans and the US would be able to sell to their population a full mobilization proposal against the combined Russia/China, because they are a threat to our democracy, our allies, and our values?
Maybe the guy in Vladivostok is saying that the ethnic Russians in Ukraine can very well emigrate to Russia, because there is lots of space and opportunities and need for bodies. The average Ivan doesn't see that the drawing on the wall for the Russian people and state, as conceived by the west, is a return to the 1990s...
I am talking here human behavior. I am saying, all considered and in comparison, Russian mobilization, or semi-mobilization, didn't turn out too bad.
I can't say that I disagree in the cautious approach Russian are talking in respect to protecting their soldiers' lives here. I expect that after all the training and prep work is done, in good Russian habits, we might see massive and concentrated offensives at various locales, with the build up not noticed. Same as the retreat from Kerson happened.
If you consider abandoning people who put their trust in you to the tender mercies of Ukraine and its Nazis, if you consider a lack of progress to be God results....
In Kerson, people had plenty of time to decide if they wanted to stay or go. I am sure that far fewer people that left actually wanted to go, but were afraid to stay, we know why. But this time people were not abandoned, so I think you are wrong here.
I really do not know what are the multiple reasons the operation is conducted the way it is conducted. I think only time will tell. I the meantime I can only keep my fingers crossed, hope, and hope some more.
Moreover, the Kiev regime needs propaganda victories such as these to ensure continued US support and to keep the EU on-side. Now the narrative is that this winter will be hard, but 2023 will belong to the regime.
Russian DoD and General Staff is making the real strategy that I am not privy to. I can only take things one day at a time. Can you do better?
As for 2023, will see how it goes. WWII lasted for 4, 5, 6 years. This is a light version of WWIII. Remember that the siege of Leningrad lasted about 900 days...
I can see the results, or lack thereof, against thugs that should have been an easy victory, but due to miscalculation and incompetence, was given more of a chance than it should have.
Anyway, a war of attrition against the West is not something Russia can win.
The election results are the proof that the last political legitimacy has been spent. What folded is any semblance of western governments serving the interests of the native europeans that founded them.
So the argument is that Russia didn't do a good job selling the war at the outset?
It was an operation started by necessity - the leadership itself was torn about doing it. Compare that with how the US prepared for the second Iraq War. You spot the difference?
That might be, but taking your statement as given, Russia still didn't manage sell such an existential war to its own population, and still can't sell a full mobilization.
Do you think that Europeans and the US would be able to sell to their population a full mobilization proposal against the combined Russia/China, because they are a threat to our democracy, our allies, and our values?
Maybe the guy in Vladivostok is saying that the ethnic Russians in Ukraine can very well emigrate to Russia, because there is lots of space and opportunities and need for bodies. The average Ivan doesn't see that the drawing on the wall for the Russian people and state, as conceived by the west, is a return to the 1990s...
Irrelevant what the US/EU could or couldn't do.
It's not as if Russia gets a consolation prize because the odds are really long or something.
I am talking here human behavior. I am saying, all considered and in comparison, Russian mobilization, or semi-mobilization, didn't turn out too bad.
I can't say that I disagree in the cautious approach Russian are talking in respect to protecting their soldiers' lives here. I expect that after all the training and prep work is done, in good Russian habits, we might see massive and concentrated offensives at various locales, with the build up not noticed. Same as the retreat from Kerson happened.
If you consider abandoning people who put their trust in you to the tender mercies of Ukraine and its Nazis, if you consider a lack of progress to be God results....
In Kerson, people had plenty of time to decide if they wanted to stay or go. I am sure that far fewer people that left actually wanted to go, but were afraid to stay, we know why. But this time people were not abandoned, so I think you are wrong here.
I really do not know what are the multiple reasons the operation is conducted the way it is conducted. I think only time will tell. I the meantime I can only keep my fingers crossed, hope, and hope some more.
Hope is not a strategy.
Moreover, the Kiev regime needs propaganda victories such as these to ensure continued US support and to keep the EU on-side. Now the narrative is that this winter will be hard, but 2023 will belong to the regime.
It didn't have to be that way.
Hope is my strategy.
Russian DoD and General Staff is making the real strategy that I am not privy to. I can only take things one day at a time. Can you do better?
As for 2023, will see how it goes. WWII lasted for 4, 5, 6 years. This is a light version of WWIII. Remember that the siege of Leningrad lasted about 900 days...
I can see the results, or lack thereof, against thugs that should have been an easy victory, but due to miscalculation and incompetence, was given more of a chance than it should have.
Anyway, a war of attrition against the West is not something Russia can win.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/11/congressional-amendment-opens-floodgates-for-war-profiteers-and-a-major-ground-war-on-russia.html
I think it is more like this:
Some people can be told; some people have to be shown.
Kind of like what is going on in the USA.
If election results are anything to go by, the West is nowhere near folding. Kherson simply provides propaganda fodder for the pro war set.
I can wish things were otherwise, but they're not.
The election results are the proof that the last political legitimacy has been spent. What folded is any semblance of western governments serving the interests of the native europeans that founded them.
That's circular logic. Of course a with denies being a witch.